Saignes - Hoax?
21st August 1997
Were there any clues on that page? Thanks to
Fred for sending this in:
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I warn you in advance: There's nothing on that page that could
relate on a mystery (and I'd think that if a fairly well-known mystery
is located there, it would have been mentionned on the page, being
a page on tourist attraction of SAIGNES and nearby). In fact, when
it was mentionned on your website that Saignes was a town name,
I've look on the net and got that very same page.
The more interesting things about that page is an
ancient church and a medieval village.
Well, it still can be it, but I wouldn't bet much on this...
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Saignes Site - Translation
21st August 1997
Andrea found it, and she
also translated it! Read on...
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SAIGNES Cantal (15)Auvergne
S.I., tel. 04.71.40.62.41 in season - Information Mairie, tel. 04.71.40.62.80 except in season.
Made part of the Office of Tourism of the country of Bort-Artense (19110) - Tel. 05.55.96.02.49 -
Fax 05.55.96.90.79.
Altitude 485 m. - 1024 inhabitants - Paris 495 km. - Clermont-Fd 95 km, Aurillac 80, Mauriac 25.
-Buses with Ussel and Clermont-Fd - Station green of Holidays to proximity of Park of the Volcanos. -
Chief town of the district. - Preferred Contacts with St-Martin the Beau in Indre and Loire. - All
businesses, medical-dental center, kiné(?), nurses, pharmacist (chemist, druggist), taxi, bank.
Excitement - plays, spectacles
Festivals - Flea Market in August.
Leisure
Fishing in rivers and lakes.
Sites, walks and excursions
Footpath PR Chamina - Circuit of the Romanesque churches - Milhac Cliff - Numerous natural sites -
Mary Peak 1787 m - Walks and excursions : Mauriac Museum; Museum of the insects of the world
(Yves-Bourg); Museum of radio (Lanobre) ; Mining Museum (Champagnac); Salers (?) (means: to
cure); medieval city 15-16th century - Flat water of Val à Bort les Orgues : sailing; sail boarding, skiing.
Architecture and collections
Romanesque Churches 12th century - Ruins of a castle and chapel 12th century - Church of Yves Bourg
M.H., 12th century - Auzers Castle 14 -10th century . - Val Castle M.H. 10th century - Oppidum de
Chastel (?) Marlhac.
Sports
Tennis - VTT (?) - Ping-pong - Archery - Heated pool - Sports ground - French Bowls.
Soil and Patrimony
Specialities : Trout, Butcheries, Pastry and squares of Auvergne ; Cheese : Cantal, Blue, Cabicous.
Accommodations
Camping ** - Municipal Camping* - Cabins of France (furnished) - H-R Relais Arverne LF, tel.
04.71.40.62.64 - Camping at the farm : 2.
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Hmm, wheres the big, dark mystery I wonder...
Saignes On The Web
21st August 1997
Although there is still no official information from Sierra about what the exact
location of the game will be, all things point to somewhere in France. The ever-resourceful
Andrea Carbert has been able to hunt down a site
which contains some information:
Tourism in France - Directory - SAIGNES (15)
If anyone can translate it for, I'd appreciate it!
GK3 - Gamesmania Interview
19th August 1997
The following Q&A came from Gamesmania:
Q: Is Jane Jensen in charge of GK3?
A: Jane Jensen is still the mind behind the Gabriel Knight
series. She's the writer/designer for this installment, and
as with the previous two, wrote the entire script.
Q: First voodoo murders, then werewolves, what's number three
about?
A: This is still a secret. It seems at this stage that
contemporary European politics play a significant role,
just as history did in GK2. A horrible secret from the
village's history is the key point. The story is based on an
actual incident, but Jane Jensen isn't specifying what
incident yet.
Q: Where does this one take place?
A: Location has always been an important part of the
series, but this is a secret too. Sierra can't tell us anything
more than "a small European Village."
Q: Will this one use Full Motion Video?
A: No. This edition will be a real-time 3D game.
Q: Who will do the voice of Gabriel Knight?
A: Casting is still to be determined. The leaning is to
recast Dean Erickson and Joanne Takahashi, who played
Gabriel and Grace in GK2. Eric Twelker tells us that Jane
Jensen will consider them if they are available.
Q: Do we get to play both Gabriel and Grace?
A: Yes.
Q: Will this game be Chapter-based?
A: Uncertain. What is known is that the game will occur in
real-time, so things will happen around Gabriel and
Grace. There will be a main-patch to the story and
"side-quests," or subplots...
Q: Will we get to play with Gabriel Knight's tape recorder again?
A: Unknown.
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GK3 is slowly permeating the gaming sites:
PC Gamer News Page
Gamesmania Interview
GK3 - Jane Jensen Speaks!
18th August 1997
The following was collated and sent to me by Ray Yamka, Jr.:
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"On the message board at the Sierra site, Jane Jensen has made
a few posts. The following are some of the excerpts:
Hey, all. How's it hangin'? Thanks for all the feedback on the new
GK3 pages.
I've seen it mentioned a few times that if you want to know what
GK3 looks like play Shivers II. I wanted to point out that the GK3
engine (G-engine) is NOT the Shivers II engine. First, Shivers II was
not real time but pre-rendered, and you could only 'move' the camera (I
believe haven't played it) minimally. In contrast, everything in GK3,
backgrounds, characters, etc. will be REAL TIME, meaning generated on
the fly so that you can move the camera 100%. The AVI fly through at the
train station, for example, was not a pre-rendered movie, but an example
of how you'll actually be able to move the camera in the game under your
own control of course and wherever you wish. This means that during
dialogue between two characters (for instance) you can zoom up to one to
look in the eyes or look behind their back to see if their fingers are
crossed or peek in their pocket or whatever. Shivers II is actually
nothing at all like GK3 neither in engine, story, art, setting, puzzles,
etc.
Just wanted to clarify before I start seeing people post Shivers
II shots as 'what GK3 will be like' images!
Jane
and...
RE: default camera angles. Yes! This is one of the fun things we're
working out. In each 'room' there'll be 3-5 default camera angles
which you can get by clicking on 'camera 1-5' on the interface.
These will 'show' you the whole room so that if you get your camera in
a tough spot or just have a slow machine you can zip around
quickly.
Then, for 'scenes' such as talking to the desk clerk, another 3-4
camera buttons will appear that have shots JUST FOR THAT
SCENE, like an over the shoulder of the clerk on Gabe, etc. so
that you can get these nice angles during the dialogue (or go out to
room views with the other buttons for that 'Hitchcock effect'. You'll
be able to jump to any of the default camera positions at will or move
the camera with the keypad or mouse any time.
Very exciting for someone who's always worked with a static or
forced camera before (i.e. me).
Jane
and
Don't want to say too much about this yet but, yes, there'll be
icons i.e. more than one. In fact, there'll be more than GK1
overall.
In general, I think GK3 is more of a return to GK1, at least in
turns of interactivity level and puzzles.
and finally...
There will be no video in GK3, but there will be more 'scenes'
around time changes.
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It would seem that the camera technology would be the thing to look for in
this new game.
GK3 - Even More Storyline Clues
18th August 1997
Something for people to try for themselves, supplied by
Jay Prychidny.
"If you subject the artsy shot of gabe (You know, with sunrise, Ca seignes,
etc.) to a number of harsh filters you may just be lucky
enough to spot "Les" in or around Gabe's belt. Les, as probably everyone
knows, is the plural form of "The" in french. Strangely, I can't find any words
after "The" (e.g."The game's plotline is about the search for vampires in a rural
town in france"). Well... I guess this will help reinforce the fact
(and I will call it a FACT) that GK3 takes place in France."
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Thanks for that feed Jay, the clues are certainly getting stronger and stronger
as the seconds tick by!.
GK3 - Even More Storyline Clues
18th August 1997
Plenty of info today, the first piece from
Arseny Lebedev:
"I noticed that it said some thing next to "sunrise" it says "line"
"sunrise line" I have a feeling that
that grid is a map."
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Another very promising piece of information came from
Andrea Carbert:
"As you may know, in one of the GK pics when you invert the colours, you see
the words 'ça'(there) and 'saignes'(no translation). These words are
french, but I could not make sense of them. Then, I looked in an atlas and
saw that there is a town in France called Saignes,
located in the Cantal region. Could this possibly the location for GK3? Maybe this is Sierra's way of saying "there in Saignes"."
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Looks promising, doesn't it folks? This final bit is really some speculation about
what the mystery could be all about. It was sent to me by Fred:
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"So here's my new hypothesis... I was thinking about Fatima, the small
rural town where the blessed Virgin appeared regularly to three young
children. Just to satisfy my curiosity, I've checked on the Internet what I
could see. I was surprised of the result, so I thought it worth sharing.
First, Fatima is in Portugal. I think it would explain the spanish feeling
we have looking the trailer. Second, Fatima is really a small rural town
surrounded by mountain. Third, it would explains why there is tourist
visiting a small rural town. Fourth, the most surprising: Look at the
house of Fatima I've found on the net, they look quite familiar...
Jane Jensen said in her interview that the city was either the site of
a Great Enigma, or of a Great Scam, depending on your level of belief.
Geez, I think that could be it!! As for the french we found on the various
image, they could be portugese: the 2 langages are highly similar!
The only things I could think opposing this theory is the religious
aspect of such a subject. I think it is highly risked to use such a
subject! (Whether Jensen made the apparition true or false, there will be
unhappy people calling to blaspheme). Furthermore, the subject may seem
quite boring. For example, my girlfriend on hearing I think Fatima was the
subject of the game was quite pessimist over the appeal of such a game...
On this I disagree with her.
I do not if you are familiar with this enigma. In big, here's the
mystery: In the early 1920, The Blessed Virgin Mary appeared to three young
sheperd of Fatima, talked to them and told them where to meet again. They
met several time. This is not a simple case of seeing the Virgin Mary
because she revealed to the three children three secrets (the famous three
secret of Fatima). The children kept the secret but told 2 of them to the
church. (the third secret being far too much important to tell a simple
man). The pastor, seeing the importance of these secret, met with the pope
to tell him. The pope kept the secret to himself, telling only his succedor.
The 2 first secrets are known to the public, but the third is well kept by
the church, despite the pression of many group of people. The secret was
supposed to be revealed in 1960, but the pope delayed the date and said that
it would probably stay a secret forever. Today, there is only 2 person who
knows the secret: the pope Jean-Paul II and Lucy, the last survivor of the
three childrens bearing the secret of Fatima. If you want to know more
about Fatima, go to http://www.fatima.org ,
they have it all! (even a virtual tour of the town).
I think there would be much speculation to do on this secret and there
could be political issue to consider (depending what the secret is), so it
could in my opinion provide the hell of a great story for Gabriel Knight...
Heck, I could be all wrong about this, but I think this is a credible
option..."
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Well I certainly think so, you've certainly done your homework on this one! To people
who haven't read the last bit of news, go and do so! Loads
of things related to GK3 there...
Previously on "News"...
- 17th August 1997
- "Beast Within" novel release date, GK3 Rumours in full, first indications of possible location, Sierra award monthly web awards for best GK site, petition to get GK recognised by CGW, official news about GK3, clues about possible location and subject matter, 3D hardware information.
- 5th July 1997
- Jane Jensen's reply to 3D speculation, GK3 Official Site teaser page up (then down, then up, then down, then up...). Official GK3 site date announced, GK3 rumour control.
- 10th May 1997
- GK 3 - Story Almost Completed, GK - The Beast Within Novel, GK - The Dark Soundtrack, GK3 - Minimum Machine Spec
- 10th March 1997
- Gabriel Knight 3 Production, GK:Sins of the Fathers - The Novel (More Information), The return of Millennium?
- 10th December 1996
- Gabriel Knight 3(D?), Mooted storyline, Engine back-lash, GK Novel, GK3 Negotiations.
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